I dunno, I’ll reserve judgment a little longer. They’re calling all these states for Obama, most of them with under 10% of the votes actually counted, some with under 5%.

I welcome back the JimK I know and love.

We missed you, man!

My only concern is that most people won’t realize that things are going to hell until it is far too late.

Here’s hoping that the GOP takes a damned long, hard look at how they ran this campaign and then does NOT do the same thing next time.

When my wife came down with leukemia she started receiving SSI because she couldn’t work. When she reached “x” income, SSI stopped. This was just a few months ago. We took a huge hit on our household income but that was OK because We’re Americans and earn our own way.

Tonight, I lost all representation in federal government.

Fair? No, but that’s how America works. 

My town’s next GOP meeting is next Thursday, I’ll be there to help start the process of winning our country back, because that’s also how America works.

I’ll be drowning my sorrows Sunday night on the bus ride to the Metallica concert.

I put buyer’s remorse setting in around June.  About when people realize you can’t win issues in the world by calling your opponents racist.

So, none of you guys that watched Obamas acceptance speach, if any of you did, found it inspirational at all?  Do you really think this is the end of the world (until you ‘win your country back’ that is)? 

Is Obama going to be worse for your country than Bush was?  Were the last 8 years the glory years, and its all going to go down hill now? 

When Bush was re-elected, I cant really say I heard too much chatter on the JimK network of sites reflecting great joy and optimism that Bush was re-elected.  It was more relief that Kerry didnt win.  As an outside observer, Ill tell you, its pretty nice to see so much optimism in your country, where there was none before.  And your country is HUGE.  In many ways.  So optimism for your country is optimism for many of us outside of your borders.  I think its a pretty exciting time.

Now I know many of you have your opinions on pretty much anyone left of center.  Maybe its knee-jerk, maybe its not.  Im sure some will say Obama hates America (as Ive heard on here that Dean hates America years ago).  I guess thats why there is this feeling of having to ‘win your country back’.  But as an outside observer, let me tell you, youve got a great president.  I often heard on here, about W, when things were going badly (the war, the economy), that it wasnt his fault or his responsibility.  He is only one man, there really isnt much he can do.  Well, if you want to follow that logic, fine.  But what one man can do is be a great leader.  The presidents who will always be considered one of the greats, from at least one side or the other, were all great speakers, and could really get people behind them (Im thinking Clinton and Reagan here).  That is something one man can do.  And youve got a man like that now. 

So, here is a little unsolicated advice… dont just give up and say let the country go to hell, and when it gets there, we will clean it up. Embrace this great moment in history for your country, and do what you can to make it have a real impact.  I am a firm believer that positive thinking can go a LONG way.  I think what Obama does well is convinces people that your country can be turned around and made into a very very great place again.  He can get people motivated to make that happen, and get them excited about it.  Now, what ‘turning it around’ actually means may be, ummm, up for debate, at the moment.  So, if it is not all written in stone yet, and you feel that Obama and Company are way too left and whatever ‘change’ they have in mind is just going to sink the country even more, then be the voice of reason to balance it out.

So, none of you guys that watched Obamas acceptance speach, if any of you did, found it inspirational at all?

When we know what he’s selling is a bunch of bullshit and its all built on lies, and its worth about as much as the promise of democrats working with republicans why should we be inspired?  Why must WE be the ones to bury the hatchet?  Why is it now time to come together?  Why couldn’t we come together before when Bush was president?  Its a load of shit.  And when one of his first announced positions is for a hyper partisan as a chief of staff, who was also a guy that was a director at Freddie Mac, we don’t need to hear more from the used car salesman about how this isn’t a Lemon.

BTW, 6 of the last 8 years were pretty decent.  There was something that happened at the end of 2006 and beginning of 2007 though which caused a change.  I wonder how much correllation we can find between the Dems winning in Congress and the increase in minimum wage to whats happening now.

If things go well, wonderful terrific I’ll be happy.  But I don’t think they will.  And I’ll laugh my ass off as the idiots that are in essence your ideological bretheren up4, make every excuse for teleprompter jesus when things go bad.  And we both know damn well that if it had been Bush or even McCain as president when things happened like this they would be putting all blame on them.

When we know what he’s selling is a bunch of bullshit and its all built on lies, and its worth about as much as the promise of democrats working with republicans why should we be inspired?  Why must WE be the ones to bury the hatchet?  Why is it now time to come together?  Why couldn’t we come together before when Bush was president?  Its a load of shit.

All of this is fine.  If you found Bush to be inspirational, and couldnt understand the other side not seeing that at all, thats cool.  I didnt really expect any of you guys to give him a shot, see if he can really do anything at all.  Just took a shot.  I thought it was an excellent speach.  I know the ‘Obama hates America’ rhetoric plays better. 

I wonder how much correllation we can find between the Dems winning in Congress and the increase in minimum wage to whats happening now.

I cant really say Ive done alot of research into why this whole financial crisis has occured.  JimKs post about it seemed pretty good to me.  You really think its all the Dems fault though?  You think the increase in min wage was the significant factor here?  Ive honestly not heard anything about that side of it.  Links?

Who are my ideological bretheren exactly?  I actually dont mind either Obama or McCain.  You guys had FAR better choices than 2004.  How it ended up between those two, WOW.  Congrats to both parties for not letting that happen again.  This time around it very easily could have been Hillary vs Romeny.  Imagine if that had happened!  Yikes!

As for laughing your ass off, yes, Im sure there will be lots to make fun of from this administration as well.  There always is. 

make every excuse for teleprompter jesus when things go bad.

Im not really sure what the teleprompter remark is all about, if you could explain… But, ummm, can you give me any predictions on what is going to go bad over the next 4 years.  Or, 8 years if Obama somehow manages to defeat Palin in 2012? :D

(on a side note… I do like McCain, but, Im sure there are many people out there who would even prefer Palin over Obama as predident, which, wow!  scary, no?)

All of this is fine.  If you found Bush to be inspirational, and couldnt understand the other side not seeing that at all, thats cool.  I didnt really expect any of you guys to give him a shot, see if he can really do anything at all.  Just took a shot.  I thought it was an excellent speach.  I know the ‘Obama hates America’ rhetoric plays better. 

I didn’t say Bush was inspirational.  I’m also not saying Obama hates America.  I’m saying he’s a socialist and his ideas and what he plans to do will likely result in negative effects rather than positive.

I cant really say Ive done alot of research into why this whole financial crisis has occured.  JimKs post about it seemed pretty good to me.  You really think its all the Dems fault though?  You think the increase in min wage was the significant factor here?  Ive honestly not heard anything about that side of it.  Links?

It was from something thrown around by a person I work with.  I’d like to see links looking at it too.  That’s why I was wondering.  And the Dems blocked attempts at reform of the mortgage industry which caused this mess. 

Who are my ideological bretheren exactly?  I actually dont mind either Obama or McCain.  You guys had FAR better choices than 2004.  How it ended up between those two, WOW.  Congrats to both parties for not letting that happen again.  This time around it very easily could have been Hillary vs Romeny.  Imagine if that had happened!  Yikes!

Oh come on.  You know you are essentially liberal, and you are more likely to side with democrats on your views than you are conservatives.  Yeah right we had far better choices this time.  McCain could be compared pretty handily to either Dole or Kerry in his ability to run a campaign.  Sorry, no dice on the better choices.

Im not really sure what the teleprompter remark is all about, if you could explain…

Obama is very good at reading from a teleprompter, and having all his words laid out right in front of him to speak.  Get him off message, and away from his talking points and he’s about as eloquent as Bush is.  And there’s all the idiotic messianic overtures from his fans.  So combine them and you get Teleprompter Jesus.

on a side note… I do like McCain, but, Im sure there are many people out there who would even prefer Palin over Obama as predident, which, wow!  scary, no?

She got where she is on her own.  Worked up from a small position in politics.  Went against the party corruption in her state to reach her current position.  Won a primary against the sitting governor.  Won the election against a former popular governor.  Has actually had executive experience.

Obama, was the handpicked replacement for a state legislator.  Worked inside his party corruption to get to his position.  Rarely if ever went against his party, to the point at saddleback when asked about bipartisanship his example involved the situation he stabbed mccain in the back over.  In one of his elections he got all his opponents removed from the ballot.  Got his US Senate seat because a judge released the divorce records of his opponent.  Has no executive experience.  Voted present over 130 times rather than actually take a position.

God its just so shocking people would rather have a clean politician who’s willing to make decisions over a corrupt indecive one.

I didn’t say Bush was inspirational.  I’m also not saying Obama hates America.  I’m saying he’s a socialist and his ideas and what he plans to do will likely result in negative effects rather than positive.

Oh ok.  Misunderstood the Bush thing.  Ya, wasnt saying you said Obama hates America, but Im sure that will come (not from you specifically). 

And the Dems blocked attempts at reform of the mortgage industry which caused this mess.

I figured the blame had to lay with the Dems somehow.  Freakin Clinton eh?  By ‘reform’, do you mean, bring in regulations that could have prevented it? 

Oh come on.  You know you are essentially liberal, and you are more likely to side with democrats on your views than you are conservatives.

Ummm, it depends.  Yes, I guess I would be more likely to side with Dems.  Guns, umm, a bit of both sides.  Social services, more towards the left for sure.  I dont know, Im all over the place.  I like listening to Ron Paul alot.  He made alot of sense to me.  But, Im sure there is dirt out there about him as well that would prevent people from voting from him.  Religous people scare me. 

McCain could be compared pretty handily to either Dole or Kerry in his ability to run a campaign.  Sorry, no dice on the better choices.

Oh, ya, I wasnt really talking about the ability to run a campaign. Just the individuals.  The choice for you between McCain and Kerry wouldnt be quite easy?  2004 seemed to be ALOT more about voting against who you didnt want in.  Not as much this time.  Although, Im sure that was more true on the left. 

So combine them and you get Teleprompter Jesus.

Oh ok.  I think I remember something on the Daily Show about that.  Think it was, Fred Thompson talking about that at the RNC, and reading it off a teleprompter?  People are awesome.

She got where she is on her own.  Worked up from a small position in politics.  Went against the party corruption in her state to reach her current position.  Won a primary against the sitting governor.  Won the election against a former popular governor.  Has actually had executive experience.

So, pretty much perfect.  Palin in 2012 then?

My question I posted though, I think you missed it… any predictions on what Obama is going to make worse in the US, in the world during his term?  Just in general I mean.

Oh ok.  Misunderstood the Bush thing.  Ya, wasnt saying you said Obama hates America, but Im sure that will come (not from you specifically).

Of course Obama doesn’t hate America.  How could he.  Its allowed to be a completely empty worthless lying corrupt politician who has never taken a difficult position on anything in his life and has no real actual accomplishments to point to, to become the president of the united states.  However, his associates do hate America.  Ayers, Wright, Khalidi.

I figured the blame had to lay with the Dems somehow.  Freakin Clinton eh?  By ‘reform’, do you mean, bring in regulations that could have prevented it? 

Clinton?  Meh.  How about the corrupt shits in Congress.  Why don’t you do some research up4.  Follow the money as they say.  Look who received the most money from Freddie and Fannie in Congress.  Look at who sat on the boards of those organizations, one of them being obamas choice for chief of staff, and I believe another was the clinton official that put up the wall between the FBI and CIA.  Look who warned and put some attempts at reform into these organizations (Bush and McCain.) Look who opposed doing anything about it.  People like Barney Frank, who headed the congressional committee that those “companies” jurisdiction fell under.  Then go research how one of these executives was Franks Boyfriend.  Conflict of interest much?  Hell go listen to him after the shit hit the fan and they’re not talking about fixing the problems that caused this.

I like listening to Ron Paul alot.  He made alot of sense to me.  But, Im sure there is dirt out there about him as well that would prevent people from voting from him.

Gee you like listening to the hypocritical jew hating retard.  Man you sure know how to pick em.  How is he hypocritical you ask?  Well you can watch him rail against all this spending and watch him cast votes against it.  But you go look at the earmarks and he’s perfectly happy to stick in plenty of pork for his district.

Religous people scare me.

And yet you’re perfectly happy about all the religious awe people have for Obama.

Oh, ya, I wasnt really talking about the ability to run a campaign. Just the individuals.  The choice for you between McCain and Kerry wouldnt be quite easy?  2004 seemed to be ALOT more about voting against who you didnt want in.  Not as much this time.  Although, Im sure that was more true on the left.

Kerry considered McCain as a possible running mate.  And of course the choice between them would be easy.  Voting for someone you agree with 60% of the time vs 10% of the time.  But in the case of the two, Kerry I would likely be voting against him, McCain I would be voting against his opponent.  And honestly I’d be taking a good hard look at 3rd party candidates in that situation.

Oh ok.  I think I remember something on the Daily Show about that.  Think it was, Fred Thompson talking about that at the RNC, and reading it off a teleprompter?  People are awesome.

Do I need to spell it out for you?  I thought you were smarter than this.  This isn’t the case of hypocrisy you seem to think it is.  Its not that Obama reads well from a teleprompter.  Its that it is when he doesn’t read from it he turns into a stuttering fool.  But oh he’s such a great orator.  Bull shit.  He’s great at reading prepared speeches.  McCain essentially has the opposite problem.  He could be really good when speaking off the cuff, but have him giving a speech and its a bore.  Someone like Thompson I doesn’t seem to have that problem.  He can speak well in both situations.

So, pretty much perfect.  Palin in 2012 then?

Did I say perfect?  You were looking at a comparison between her and Obama.  I provided one.

My question I posted though, I think you missed it… any predictions on what Obama is going to make worse in the US, in the world during his term?

I don’t know what’s going to happen in the next 4 years.  I didn’t miss it I considered it stupid.  But you want an answer you can look at some of the things he seems to be in favor of.  First theirs the end to government oversight of the Teamsters.  You know to prevent the mob from getting involved with them again.  That would never happen again right?  And again with the unions, there’s this little idea out there in legislation right now that obama is in favor of.  Its the removal of the secret ballots concerning union voting You know so now if you’re opposed to something the union leadership wants to do you can vote against it knowing they won’t know you’re one of those that did.  That would be gone.  And if you don’t think unions would use some intimidation to get people to vote the way they want, well then you are an idiot.

We can also look at Obama’s choice of associations to get an idea of how he will be.  Let’s see, there’s Ayers the terrorist, Wright the racist preacher of black liberation theology, Khalidi Palestinian terrorist supporter, Frank Marshall Davis the pedophile communist.  There’s also is biological daddy that Obama feels some connection to that believed in 100% taxation.

And then we just need to look at the happiness of the world.  Iran is overjoyed at the choice of Obama.  You know because they’ve just got such a concern for the well being of the the US.  Russia announces plans to put missiles closer to Europe.  God its going to be such a fun time.

The world got their president.  Afterall they paid for him.  Oh what’s that?  You didn’t know that Obama’s online contributions had the AVS disabled?  You could have donated money to his campaign up4.  Could have put in a phony address and it would have accepted it.  Call yourself Adolf Hitler residing in Berlin Germany and it would accept your canadian credit card.  And people could have easily over contributed in the US this way.  And the AVS isn’t just something you forget to turn on either.