Ahh, yes, Brain Candy.  “I had to take the biggest pee in the world!”

Have we learned what was illegal about what he did yet?

I’m really not into the whole “guess the secret sex lives of conservative politicians game.”

I definitely prefer the “guess the party affiliation of politician mired in scandal.” Its just always too easy when its conservative, they give the answer away too fast.

Dude… all the jokes I’m having to try SO HARD to suppress right now…

According to a CBS affiliate, He was in a stall next to an undercover and started tapping his foot and feelin around the underside of the divider. Apparently, this is gay code for “come on over”. Seems like a bit of a stretch just based on that information. Guess it just depends on the situation. If he was sitting there with his pants around his ankles and a turd in the bowl… Noone’s said so.

Here’s a link to the CBS description of what happened. CBS reenactment

Have we learned what was illegal about what he did yet?

“Closeted Gay While Republican”. That’s apparently a felony in 48 States…

Funny how the Dems claim to be the party of tolerance when it comes to things like sexual preference, yet they are trumpeting this as though they had just found the shooter on the grassy knoll. Is a private life supposed to remain private?

According to a CBS affiliate, He was in a stall next to an undercover and started tapping his foot and feelin around the underside of the divider.

As though he were listening to an mp3 player - or even just his favorite opera in his head - and wondering whether there was any toilet paper on the other side of the wall?

Naaaahhhhhhhhhh

By the way, Jim, consider me not making the truly, horrendously tasteless dicksucking joke that was on my mind earlier your birthday gift. XD

Yeah, I’m sure it was an mp3 player.  An invisible one, that just happened to make him tap the EXACT code that means “I want you to suck my dick for a 20” in a known cruising location so fucking busy they had to sit undercovers in there to discourage public sex acts.

I mean, come on!  He’s totally pulling a “Why do those types think I’m one of them” routine here.

As for the illegal part?  He propositioned a stranger for sex in public.  I don’t give a flying fuck what someone does in their home (or a hotel, or the back room of a club, or in a limo, or almost anywhere else with a reasonable expectation of privacy), but in a public restroom?  Jesus Christ, there *is* a line, I don’t have to defend him just because he’s *not* a Democrat.

In this case my first thought was “Hello, you stupid fuck?  Kids use public bathrooms too.  You filthy cocksucker, get a room.”

If he did indeed do what he has been accused of with the stated intentions he is a hypocrite considering his public stances and everything.

As for the illegal part?  He propositioned a stranger for sex in public.  I don’t give a flying fuck what someone does in their home (or a hotel, or the back room of a club, or in a limo, or almost anywhere else with a reasonable expectation of privacy), but in a public restroom?  Jesus Christ, there *is* a line, I don’t have to defend him just because he’s *not* a Democrat.

Now you know the last thing I’ll do is defend a Republican just because he’s a Republican.

But do we know that’s what he did?  And it’s illegal to solicit for sexual partners now?  Better do raids of every singles bar on the planet.

Only public sex would be illegal, and AFAIK he didn’t have any.  Is it illegal to ask for public sex, or rather SHOULD it be illegal?

It’s not like he was gonna hit on the guy and then suggest they retire to his conveniently adjacent hotel suite.  They were going to suck some dick there.  In the stalls.

Not really too cool.

I’m still with David Plotz.

Having just read the arrest report, I am unimpressed. Craig didn’t disturb anyone, made very subtle signs and only touched the guy in response to a positive signal from the cop. If they want to stop disturbing and disorderly conduct, they need to find more disorder than this.

I understand why they want to stop a bathroom from becoming a den of blowjobs, but this seems pathetic. Also—there is little deterrent effect in doing this generally. It is an airport, so by definition it caters to people in transit, who aren’t going to know that it has become a police target.

If people like this chap didn’t stigmatise gay people so much then perhaps they wouldn’t need to go cruising in public toilets. That’s why it’s satisfying that he has, to use the vernacular, gone down.

I’m still with David Plotz.

Yeah, good points to be sure.  Still, I find the whole “I’m not gay, I just like to suck cock/get my cock sucked by dudes in bathrooms” and the “I didn’t mean to plead guilty” angles freaking hysterical.  I actually don’t think the act itself is as terrible as some, although it’s not too cool.  I’m much more interested in his crazy backpeddling and of course the way people are reacting.

Plus, I mean come on, the Brain Candy connection was brilliant on my part.  Give it up for me, everyone!  Me.  :)

I did give you credit for that.

BTW, more here from real lawyers and stuff.

that just happened to make him tap the EXACT code that means “I want you to suck my dick for a 20” in a known cruising location so fucking busy they had to sit undercovers in there to discourage public sex acts.

Exactly what “code” is that, Jim?  Where can I find this code so that I will never be mistaken for accidentally signaling something like “bet on the #4 horse in the third race at Pamlico to place”. I mean, since gambling is illegal in most states - unlike homosexuality and picking up strangers for casual romps - I wouldn’t want to risk anyone thinking I was a hypocrite or anything…

And I, for one, usually have some kind of music running through my head when I’m bored and just sitting there, even when I don’t have an iPod with me. (It helps pass the time. Usually something with a distinctive drum riff.)

As for the illegal part?  He propositioned a stranger for sex in public.

Which interpretation immediately makes every cocktail bar and nightclub in the nation illegal. And he did this by some secret code and without a word being spoken?

The only way that act becomes illegal is if he offered money for that act. Was this somehow arranged through this alleged tapping code, too?

Jesus Christ, there *is* a line, I don’t have to defend him just because he’s *not* a Democrat.

I’m not defending his actions if they were in fact illegal. I just don’t think that they were illegal, and I just find the Dems hypocrisy over “our sex lives should be a private matter, having nothing to do with our jobs (unless it’s politically expedient to make the accusation)” rather amusing. If he were a Democrat, they would be raising the roof over how his privacy was violated.

Remember me? I’m the one that was arguing that private lives should remain private, and none of the government’s business. It is now the Democrat’s position that we should broadcast this far and wide for no other reason than this guy is a Republican.

As far as that particular airport bathroom being known as a local pickup spot, does that mean that every person walking through there, especially a government official who travels quite a bit, should have known this? Does that mean that every person who walked through Times Square during the Ed Koch nightmare was guilty of solicitation? I mean, it was a well-known hangout for hookers, and that means there is no other reason that anyone would ever go there.

I mean, it’s not like public bathrooms in major airports have any other uses or anything.

Plus, I mean come on, the Brain Candy connection was brilliant on my part.

I never really liked Kids In The Hall and never saw Brain Candy.

Whatever happened to “innocent until proven guilty”? Was that thrown out in favor of “innocent until proven Republican”?

It’s not so much what he did, Drumwaster. You’re right, the government shouldn’t be arresting him for legal acts. But remember two things:

1) Sex between men was illegal in a lot of states until Lawrence vs Texas, and it’s idiots like this who campaigned (and still do) for sodomy laws.

2) Social conservatives make such a huge deal about gay sex that the public outing and laughter when one of them turns out to be a flaming hypocrite is almost inevitable. If they shut up and accepted that some people are gay, some people are straight, and they’re all entitled to have fun then perhaps we wouldn’t see such a circus when a republican gets caught wanting to suck some dick.

Sex between men was illegal in a lot of states until Lawrence vs Texas

And those were the laws that were never really enforced unless the violation was so flagrant that the cops could no longer ignore it. I also happen to believe that the arrest in that case was a set-up, just to force a test case through the court system.

it’s idiots like this who campaigned (and still do) for sodomy laws.

I don’t agree with trying to legislate morality by banning certain acts between consenting adults. I agree with Spider Robinson in believing that the only things that should be banned during sex is former food and former people.

It isn’t the hypocrisy being exposed that I have a problem with. It’s that the very people who claim that any kind of sex is acceptable seem to use the epithet of “gay” as an insult more frequently, and shout the private lives of others from the very rooftops only when it is politically expedient to do so.

These were the same people arguing that adultery on government property is “a private matter”, yet they claim that perfectly legal - and, arguably, easily subject to misinterpretation - acts that might hint at “naughty” should be trumpeted in 40-point type above the fold in every major paper on the planet.

If he’s a closeted homosexual, BFD. It’s no one’s business but his.

If there is any hypocrisy here, it exists on both sides, and I deplore all of it.

Now let’s get back to poking fun at middle-aged white men acting like douchebags on TV.