Thu, 02 Sep 2004 22:34:58
RNC Pt. 4
I’m VERY time-delayed on the RNC Convention tonight...I just started watching the 9PM coverage on MSNBC. I’m just gonna pretend it’s live though. :)
*Update*
Here comes Pataki…
- I wonder if the left is going to scream that PATAKI of all people doesn’t have the right to talk about 9/11?
- Nice, hitting on Kerry’s complete non-record in the Senate. No wonder he wants to talk about Vietnam so often.
- I hate these generic speeches that try to cover so many broad topics.
- Oh! Did someone just say “Google” from the stage? Holy crap. Welcome to the world, fellow geeks. We were here a long time ago, and we knew we’d get there. if I have learned one thing in 2004, it is how pervasive and how powerful the Internet is. Left or right, R or D, we shoudl all be proud that we were here before most people, scratching and clawing to make it work. “Google his own name”...beautiful!
- Uhh, it was “help is on the way” George.
- No you didn’t. Not the Gipper line. Please don’t do that again. And the flipper line was lame. You’re not Eminem.
- That’s true, Clinton didn’t do a fucking thing of merit after the WTC truck bomb, USS Cole, etc. He was too busy diddling interns and being hen-pecked by the carpet...bagger.
- I wonder how many people remember those who opposed even the action in Afghanistan.
- Something about Pataki smirking when talking about Iraq bothered me.
- I don’t see how ANYONE could argue against the fact that deposing Saddam was good for Iraq and good for the world. I truly do not understand how people argue against that. And yet they do.
- “That’s not good enough.” Agreed.
- It’s rhetoric, but I agree, we didn’t choose this war. And I would rather have a man at the helm to wants to win.
*Update*
That was one HELL of an entrance.
- I’m so glad that he has the balls to just *talk* about 9/11. I found it offensive when Dems started pretending they owned that day and the GOP had no right to talk about it.
- He’s flipping notes in a binder. Can he see the teleprompters?
- OK, this is just a personal thing, but I know the look a man who is truly and deeply in love with a owman. I know it very well, and I can spot a fake a mile away. I knwo CLinbton is not in love with Hillary. I can see it in his eyes. I don’t believe Theresa Heinz loves John Kerry. I believe their marriage is one of power, not love. I can see it in their eyes. But what I just saw was a man who looked at his wife like she was the most wonderful person on earth. I know that look.
- So I’m guessing ‘Nothing will hold us back” is the idee’ fixee’ for this speech?
- Dubya, we want to buy drugs from Canada, dude...make that happen. We can save a friggin’ fortune.
- Oh will someone PLEASE explain the tax cut numbers in detail so we can stop hearing the tax cut lie from the Dems!
- YES. REFORM AND SIMPLIFY THE TAX CODE. Do it now.
- YES. Small firms like one-man self-employed guys with no health care? Will you get me some access to those group plan discounts, George?
- The rural health center thing seems...odd. How?
- Nailing John Edwards right in his pocket...medical liability reform is desperately needed.
- C’mon, this “decisions by doctors, not by politicians” is obvious, George. Now make it happem. Outlaw all HMOs and make them become PPOs.
- “Ownership society.” I like that. People tend to take care of things they *own* rather than rent. And that includes the neighborhoods in which these homes exist.
- Social Security means nothing to me. I don’t pay in. I pay taxes, but nothing about my income goes to SS.
- Re: schools, etc...can we start with smacking anyone who refuses to use red pens because it will “scar the children?”
- Dubya must have spent days working on that Spanish!
- OK, While I agree that Kerry is going to spend far more than Bush. But Bush...you ain’t exactly thrifty, brother. YOu have been expanding faster than my waistline. It’s my least favorite thing about you as a president.
- A constitutional amendment to forbid gay marriage is NOT holding to a strict interpretation of the fucking law, George.
- OK, you win on the “heart and soul” Hollywood line, but fuck the “defense of marriage” act.
- Damn, I totally agree that Kerry is not a conservative candidate, but not for these reasons, dammit. I HATE the bigotry in the GOP.
- 50 million people have been liberated. I think we all know where I stand on that issue.
- I agree we owe the military more than thanks, George. Now DO IT. Don’t just talk about it. You personally owe those men and women a lot. Maybe your very career these past 4, and potentially the next 4.
- The 87 billion stuff was really Kerry quibbling about who was going to fund the 20 billion that was specifically earmarked for rebuilding. Like JC Watts said last night on Hardball, that was NOT the bill to be playing politics on. He screwed himself and has no one else to blame.
Breaking format to say Bush has improved as a speaker, but goddamn dude, you gotta get better at this!
- NO! Don’t brush past that “democracy in the middle east” point! You’re not seizing on it enough! Dammit...he took it into rhetoric. DAMMIT. That was a perfect point and needed expanding. A working viable democracy in Iraq would invalidate many of the claims made by radical Muslim clerics all over the Middle East. All you would have to do to refute the ideas of the Taliban, let’s say, would be to point to Iraq and say “Well how are they prospering? They aren’t doing the dumb shit you make us do every day!”
- I love the point about editorials in WW2. Imagine if that war was happening today? I can’t imagine what the repulsive radical left like Moore and his ilk would say.
- “Even if you don’t agree, at least you know where I stand...” True.
- “Which is Texas is called ‘walking’.” Oh that was a brilliant line!
- Re: how can those burdened with sorrow show such pride? Because they know they were a part the life of someone who cared about this country, and they do as well. At least that’s how I see it.
Well, it wasn’t an emotionally inspiring speech, but it was solid, filled with *some* detail and some plans. I guess we’ll have to go to his website to read the finer details. Scarborough made a point, he looked at the end like he was relaxed and enjoying the public speaking. I agree. He definitely needs to learn to relax in front of crowds.
Not bad. Not bad at all.
Posted by JimK at 10:34 PM on September 02, 2004
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#2 Posted by MooreSucksAss 
on 09/03 at 01:50 AM -
I really like the speech on the whole. He did a little fudging with the teleprompters here and there, but overall he’s getting better at public speaking. There were a couple spots as you mentioned Jim, where I was thinking, “ooh, how’s he going to ACCOMPLISH that, though??”
I laughed out loud at the line “and that’s the kind of promise a politician usually keeps” in reference to Kerry’s tax increase platform.
To be honest, I started to get a little choked up when Bush did, and I was not expecting that. The camera panned to the audience and showed some women shedding tears. At least for that part of the speech, I think it was emotionally inspiring. (I know what you’re thinking, MSA is a pussy- haha)
I was a little confused on one part though…
Maybe that same person’s still around, writing editorials.
Was this a reference to Moore?
#3 Posted by Rann Aridorn on 09/03 at 04:49 AM -
Did you see Bill Maher on O’Reilly? Now, normally, my thought on that would be “Now those are two who deserve each other.” I hate Maher with a fiery passion, and when both he and Michael Moore are dead, I’m going to be drinking a LOT of water for the necessary urine for both graves.
But O’Reilly TORE MAHER UP. I mean, he ripped him apart and sent him down in flames, you could see how frustrated Maher was. In fact, O’Reilly caught him in a blatant falsehood, and Maher just sort of stuttered and tried to go back to worshipping at the cock of the Left while taking potshots at the Right.
It was a beautiful thing to see, I hope Maher loses sleep over it.
#4 Posted by Sean Galbraith 
on 09/03 at 12:10 PM -
I didn’t catch the whole speach, but I caught some of the highlights (so I don’t comment on the content, since I didn’t see it all).
“Scarborough made a point, he looked at the end like he was relaxed and enjoying the public speaking. I agree. He definitely needs to learn to relax in front of crowds.”
I agree and I disagree. Bush did look more confident and more relaxed from what I’ve seen of last night. I think that he’s a pretty good public speaker as far as president’s go when he’s talking from a prepared speach that he’s had time to practice (its when he has to go off the script that he loses it). But all in all, from what I saw, it was a good confident delivery.
Question: If you take out the parts about terrorism/homeland security, what new “stuff” was there that wasn’t in his 2000 speeches? From the transcript I’ve read a lot of it looks pretty recycled.
#5 Posted by verukasalt on 09/03 at 05:09 PM -
4 more years, signed, sealed, and delivered.
Thanks to Zell Miller and the moonbat protesters in NYC
#6 Posted by Rann Aridorn on 09/03 at 05:12 PM -
Sean, one of my friends commented that, yeah, most of the stuff from his speech was stuff he’d already had on his webpage. Some of it wasn’t, but I can’t recall at the moment EXACTLY what he said was new. I think it may have been some of the medical insurance and tax stuff, which came earlier on.
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#1 Posted by MooreSucksAss
on 09/03 at 12:33 AM -
I just finished watching the speech (Mountain standard time) ...