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Sat, 19 May 2007 21:35:00

Moore-on

What a fun week this is turning out to be.  Read this, then read this.  You should see the hate emails.  Fun!

*UPDATE*

OK, the shit has really hit the fan.  Just go to Moorewatch and start at the post titled ”Beating someone to the punch.” It goes on, and on, and on...culminating in the revelation that I am in the movie.

WTF?


Posted by JimK at 09:35 PM on May 19, 2007
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Rann Aridorn#1  Posted by Rann Aridorn United States on 05/18 at 04:34 PM -

I bet. Mooreons really are the nastiest, lowest sorts you could possibly encounter.

#2  Posted by Drumwaster United States on 05/18 at 04:45 PM -

Both links go to the same place…

Should I be forced to sit through that level of stupidity twice? If so, I’m going to have to charge you for my time - and I don’t come cheap…

JimK#3  Posted by JimK United States on 05/18 at 05:01 PM -

Fixed that second link...sorry!

#4  Posted by Drumwaster United States on 05/18 at 06:15 PM -

Hey, Mikey! If you have any other mad ca$h that you want to give to people that despise your every molecule, drop me a line. I could use a new truck…

Harley W Daugherty#5  Posted by Harley W Daugherty United States on 05/18 at 06:25 PM -

DUDE, watch your ass… moore could still boomerang this

Rann Aridorn#6  Posted by Rann Aridorn United States on 05/19 at 11:00 PM -

DUDE, watch your ass… moore could still boomerang this

Nothing he can really do, at this point, other than what he already has. It’s not as if he can try and demand repayment or anything, there was no contract, he has no legal basis to do so.

#7  Posted by Helo United States on 05/19 at 11:20 PM -

It goes on, and on, and on...culminating in the revelation that I am in the movie.

I was reading the quotes and drivel and started to get a headache. Can you direct me to the part where they talk about you being in the movie?

#8  Posted by Helo United States on 05/19 at 11:55 PM -

Oh yeah, and I’m going to punch your website in the jaw if it tells me “operation aborted” one more time…

#9  Posted by dakrat United States on 05/20 at 12:18 AM -

Moore is lower than pondscum.

#10  Posted by working_man United States on 05/20 at 12:30 AM -

Jim,

This probably couldn’t suck worse for you, I am extremely empathetic and can’t imagine how unfun dicking around with the Mooreons must be.  Hang tough and be glad Donna is okay and you are too.

w_m

#11  Posted by gcanter United States on 05/20 at 12:50 AM -

I don’t understand what Moore’s point was. Taking a voluntary contribution over taxpayer money seems like a consistent, conservative position to me.

Rann Aridorn#12  Posted by Rann Aridorn United States on 05/20 at 12:58 AM -

What it actually is matters to neither Moore nor his Mooreons. If he says it’s proof we need socialized healthcare, to them it is.

#13  Posted by gcanter United States on 05/20 at 01:24 AM -

Yeah, sorry.  I forgot who I was talking about…

#14  Posted by Noblebrown United States on 05/20 at 01:34 AM -

A bunch of Farkers are going apeshit on this one. I’m trying to tell them what the real story is (the story linked in the Fark page is slanted as hell), and now they accuse me of being you. I know you think that’s flattering. Just don’t let this shit get to you, but above all, don’t get real nasty, as tempting as that may be. Moore put you in a tight place here, and you’ll have to step lightly to get out of it.

chrisbg99#15  Posted by chrisbg99 United States on 05/20 at 02:24 AM -

Unfortunately for people like Moore and his Moore-ons they think charity is something that when given, the person who receives is somehow beholden to the person who gave.

Stupid fucks.

#16  Posted by Drumwaster United States on 05/20 at 02:26 AM -

culminating in the revelation that I am in the movie.

Gee, can I have your autograph? Better gimme two, I can trade them for one from Gavin MacLeod…

JimK#17  Posted by JimK United States on 05/20 at 02:42 AM -

Noble: MUCH thanks.

Helo (and everyone): I tried to summarize here.

#18  Posted by dakrat United States on 05/20 at 02:52 AM -

Gee, can I have your autograph?

It’s like playing that 6 degrees of seperation game!

#19  Posted by Noblebrown United States on 05/20 at 03:04 AM -

No problem Jim, although it wont amount to much. You know what they say about arguing on the internet, but eh, it can pass the time, although sometimes I wish I had a personal item from some of those guys, if you know what I mean.

bgeek#20  Posted by bgeek United States on 05/20 at 02:40 PM -

So, um...when’s the Starkcast coming back? :D

I keed, I keed.

#21  Posted by Janna United States on 05/20 at 07:30 PM -

I called your voice mail on the MW site. I left you a message.

Hugs to you and Donna :-) And I need a good number to contact ya’ll. I miss you guys.

jo-jo#22  Posted by jo-jo United States on 05/20 at 08:32 PM -

look at the fun in your life right now.  hahah

times like this remind me how inaccurate EVERYTHING you read/hear in the media usually is.  nat k. very nicely came to your defense in ONTD.  i thanked her on your behalf.

#23  Posted by Buzzion United States on 05/21 at 12:26 PM -

jim, has anyone in the media contacted you yet?  Of course I kind of doubt that they will since that would mean they actually have to do research, and not simply take what moore says as truth.

JimK#24  Posted by JimK United States on 05/21 at 02:16 PM -

I’ve had two media requests, one a definite “friendly” but I turned them down.  One, I can barely talk today, I have a terrible sore throat (just went to the doc, it’s not strep).  Two, I just feel like if I calm down and craft my responses only on the website, my words will, if not get widely read, will at least be the way I want them.

jo-jo#25  Posted by jo-jo United States on 05/21 at 02:23 PM -

just feel like if I calm down and craft my responses only on the website, my words will, if not get widely read, will at least be the way I want them.

if you do want your “side” out there, you may want to consider not only crafting your words on the site, but actually putting out a press release and forwarding it to the outlets you believe are missing the point.

Rann Aridorn#26  Posted by Rann Aridorn United States on 05/21 at 03:53 PM -

but actually putting out a press release and forwarding it to the outlets you believe are missing the point.

Wouldn’t work. The outlets sympathetic to Moore would characterize the press release as an “angry letter” or “plea for sympathy”, cherry-pick a few sentences to publish that they could put in the context they wanted, and craft the insinuation that the rest is just petulant ranting.

Y’know, that leftist media.

jo-jo#27  Posted by jo-jo United States on 05/21 at 04:02 PM -

well, rann, to be fair, that happens in left or right slanted media.  that’s just a plain ol’ MEDIA thing.

#28  Posted by Drumwaster United States on 05/21 at 04:21 PM -

Jo-jo, that may very well, be true, but Jim’s original point stands.

If Jim wants an official statement out there, he merely has to type one up and post it. Three reasons why this is the best solution:

1. It prevents Jim from being misunderstood or misquoted about something that only a very few would get to see in its entirety (just as Rann said).

2. It gets the word out to everyone that Jim really cares about. Both of them.

3. Because it is exactly the same thing that other movie stars do when they have an issue that they care about but don’t want to make a big fuss over it.

This is really no big deal to Moore. Try and make it one and he wins.

He bought $12,000 worth of publicity when circumstances allowed him to do so while still making it seem like he “cares about the little guy”. Imagine how it would have turned out if anyone else were the guardian angel, or if Jim hadn’t been screwed over by so many people at the same time, so that his finances hadn’t been so stretched as to need the assist from anyone at all? Would Moore have still kicked down the $12,000 for his insurance bills? Of course not. That’s why it is a pragmatic gesture, not a compassionate one. He saw a way to spin the issue with money, and because of the millions of Useful Idjits out there who actually believe Bush had something to do with 9/11, he’s got the ducats to spare…

Win-win-win from his point of view. But that doesn’t mean you “lose”. Let him have his “Attaboy” (even Attila the Hun had a mother who loved him), and stand up for your own principles by continuing to keep his feet to the fire for every misprint, every “differently-facted anecdote”, and every distortion of truth for which he is so famous. He’ll have enough in this new movie to keep us all entertained.

By the way, has he bought his way out of that Treasury Dept investigation yet?

#29  Posted by Buzzion United States on 05/21 at 07:42 PM -

jim,

Was the IAB Health Group the ones that the $12,000 was given through.  Or is that an actual health insurance company?

JimK#30  Posted by JimK United States on 05/22 at 03:14 AM -

No, that IAB shit is the thing I dumped before getting the real PPO.

#31  Posted by Drumwaster United States on 05/23 at 02:42 PM -

As a final follow-up, I wonder if Moore is still using Canada as an example of how well socialized medicine works?

Because there are some people who would beg to differ…

Who would you believe, Michael “Anything to make a buck” Moore or the Canadian Supreme Court?

Canadians wait an average of 17.9 weeks for surgery and other therapeutic treatments, according the Vancouver-based Fraser Institute. The waits would be even longer if Canadians didn’t have access to the U.S. as a medical-care safety valve.

***

The Justices who sit on Canada’s Supreme Court, by the way, aren’t a bunch of Scalias of the North. This is the same court that last year unanimously declared gay marriage constitutional.

And two other minor points for Mikey to ignore:

1) How much more expensive would health care costs be in all those socialized medicine countries if the US weren’t absorbing the costs of R&D;(not to mention drug subsidies for third-world nations) for all of those new medicines and “little blue pills” being prescribed under those socialized systems?

2) Hasn’t it occurred to you that the US already has government-funded health care, aka Medicare? (And we all know how efficient and cost-effective that program is...)

#32  Posted by ironmaiden United States on 05/25 at 12:21 AM -

Jim, Congrats, you’re going to be a “movie star”?
I would ask for a royalty share if I were you.  I heard some interesting facts about Canada’s universal health care.  If you need to have an MRI on a knee that need to be operated on average wait time is 90 days.  If you need to undergo chemo for prostate cancer, could be up to 6 months or more, and by the time the chemo starts the disease has progressed so much that most people end up being a fatatity statistic instead of a survivor statistic.  It gets worse, but I heard this on Rush’s show about 2-3 months back.  I may have some of it wrong but the fact is that universal healthcare is made worse when govt. takes over.  In England, to save money, they are telling nurses to “turnover” sheets for the next patient who comes along. (Yew!!) State run healthcare for seniors is even worse.  THEY DON’T HAVE THE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYONE!!!  With the new “comprehensive illegal alien reform” bill, healthcare for everyone will just go down the drain.  Take care, Ironmaiden.
P.S.  Jana says “hi” to you and Donna.


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