NOW I know why you want us to “Spank your ass and call you Jenna...”

Reading the linked article this paragraph jumped out at me.....

“As per 2257 regulations, porn companies are required to keep records of performers’ real names and ages, ensuring that only once a perfomer turns 18 can he or she become officially sexually attractive.”

Sexually attractive????  so now the feds are going to tell me what i find sexually attractive???  Man..the terrorists HAVE won.  Now if the FBI wants to monitor if underage girls are sexually ACTIVE...THAT i can understand...lol.  I know Traci Lords was VERY sexually attractive before she was 18...well...that’s what i hear anyways.

i don’t know much about the 2257 regs and therefore make no statement as to how i feel about the regs themselves.

however, i absolutely disagree with you on this one 100%.

the FBI’s sole purpose is not just to fight terrorists, while it should be the first priority. 

having *5* agents who police for child pornography doesn’t bug me even the itty bitty slightest.  in fact, why is it only 5??

this isn’t (or shouldn’t be - i plead ignorance of the details) about porn and first amendment rights.  this is about CHILD pornography and CHILD titties.  first amendment doesn’t cover that, nor should it.

yeah, that’s the FBI doing what it’s supposed to do… and i’d be pissed as fuck if they weren’t.

this isn’t (or shouldn’t be - i plead ignorance of the details) about porn and first amendment rights.  this is about CHILD pornography and CHILD titties.  first amendment doesn’t cover that, nor should it.

No it isn’t. It might be nominally about child porn, but that’s really the convenient excuse to prosecute the War On Fun. Do you really think that mainstream porn companies are going to risk their lucrative revenue streams and the personal freedom of their executives by knowingly putting a 17 year old on a video when there’s plenty of fresh-looking 18 year olds willing to do anything? Bush’s justice department has spent the last 6 years trying to crack down on the adult industry in all its forms. They’re doing gambling as well now, because we all know that playing poker from home is a grave threat to national security.

Jody, do you really think that Wicked Pictures is full of child porn?  Because ultimately, that’s kind of what you’re saying.  This is not a unknown, fly-by-night producer here...this is one of the big dogs.  Wicked is as mainstream as it gets in the adult business.

It’s one thing to raise the spectre of kiddie porn to justify a whole whole of intrusive laws and regulations - and the Justice Department does exactly that - but to waste time policing a completely mainstream, large, very well known company like Wicked?  It’s ridiculous.  Not once has any Wicked performer been suspected of being under age.  This was just Gonzalez trying to harass the porn industry because he’s a Bush-style fundamentalist who believes things like the Constitution DOESN’T secure the right of Habeas Corpus.  Mind-boggling.

Meanwhile, Usenet is - and always has been - chock fucking full of kiddie porn and the FBI doesn’t do jack shit about that.

Sorry, I think this is a huge waste of our money, any way you slice it.  *I* could track down more kiddie porn providers in a week than the FBI will find in 5 years of browsing 2257 records at mainstream porn companies.

They’re doing gambling as well now, because we all know that playing poker from home is a grave threat to national security.

Bingo.  Why on earth is the FBI actually going after people who play poker online?  Who the fuck is being harmed there?  Gambling addicts?  Yeah, they couldn’t find an Indian casino anywhere to feed that addiction, right?

It’s just fundies trying to make life as miserable as possible for anyone with a slightly socially liberal mindset.  Hence my fear of Mitt Romney getting national power.  People talk about how restrained he’s been as Governor of Mass...but did he have any choice?  It’s freaking Massachusetts.  he could tilt at windmills all day and get nowhere with a socially conservative plan.  The only place on earth more socially liberal than Massachusetts is San Francisco.

Give Romney the new power that Bush has invested in the office of the President, however, and who knows where he might take it?  As Bill Quick put it, I’ve “had enough true believers” for one lifetime.

I love the phrase “War on Fun.” Yours?

i disagree with you jim.  again, i don’t know the actual motives for the wicked search were, but in GENERAL (1) why should they selectively enforce just because wicked is a large, well known “mainstream” operation?  (2) being large, well known and mainstream does NOT equate to law abiding.  large corporations break laws just as often because they think they can get away with it because they’re large corporations (just look at all the employment law violations at wal-mart).

i am not saying that there isn’t an ulterior motive here.  let’s face it, you know how i feel about this administration and their forcefed morality ;) i in know way meant to defend that, and as far as that goes, i’m 100% on the same page as you.

and you know i’m a champion for first amendment rights.  like i said, i don’t know the backgroud of the regs, so i am speaking purely theoretically. 

you are clearly referring to the ACTUAL practice, while i’m talking to the general concept of having no problems with allotting manpower to child protection.  while not necessarily apples and oranges, maybe it’s more like oranges and tangerines ;) that’s why i made the caveat about not knowing anything about the regs (including enforcement thereof).

i’m just saying that the concept of 5 FBI agents enforcing a law to protect children doesn’t bug me at all.  THAT is really what i disagreed with in your post: the general concept that the FBI should care only about terrorists and not other federal laws.

I love the phrase “War on Fun.” Yours?

Yes, as far as I know, but it’s not really a big stretch to coin considering the Wars On Everything Else that have been declared lately.

Orpheus, JimK-> Right on!

The thing about politicians in general is these days they suck up votes by pandering to insecure douchebags and telling them that they’ll make other people follow their religion. I don’t care if it’s religion in the traditional ‘worship invisible beings and don’t fuck unless we give you permission’ sense or the new-fangled ‘buy an SUV and you’re going to burn in global-warming hell’ type. The only difference between these ballot leeches and the camel-fuckers forcing Sharia down people’s throats is the severity of the crime. We’re not performing clitorectomies yet, but we’re on that road…