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Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:30:00

Heroes - Four months later

So...didja watch?  I thought it was really good.  As if they never took a break.

SPOILER ALERT!

Questions answered.  We know some of who is alive and what’s going on, but a couple new questions pop up; Who killed Kaito Nakamura?  Is Sark...I mean Takezo Kensei really a 1600s Englishman who snuck into feudal Japan?  Will Hiro become Kensei, and under the guise of “working for” White Guy Kensei, do all the great and heroic deeds that Takezo was supposed to do?

The new people: What the frig is her power?  Is she sick, or are they just confusing her power with a sickness?  Whatever it is, she can’t control it.

HRG is still a dangerous man.  How Copydick didn’t get that is beyond me.  Anyone who pauses for that long before answering you is contemplating either not killing you, or exactly how they are going to kill you.

The Parkman story is fun, and I’m glad to see Matt getting his shit together, but it’s really only about Molly seeing the evil man’s eyes.  Who’s the evil that is worse than Sylar?  Is that who is haunting her dreams, or is it Sylar himself?  I couldn’t tell from the voice.

My working theory on Peter, Nathan and the cargo box: Nathan is obviously hooked up with HRG and Claire, at least in some way.  So having access to The Haitian Mindsucker isn’t out of the realm of possibility.  So, after the big boom, Peter kept Nathan alive.  In fact, I’m saying that Claire’s new boyfriend is proof that more than one person can have a power (obviously) so Peter could have gotten healing from anyone.  He was at the point where proximity alone could give him your ability, and he was keeping them.  SO...he heals Nathan.  Nathan knows that Peter is his own worst enemy when it comes to hiding, so Nathan has The Haitian wipe out his memory.  He dumps hims somewhere...who knows where.  The fact that Nathan had to drive his own family away, coupled with what he did to Peter, plus the fact that his only close family member is now his evil bitch of a mother has driven him to drink.

I’m partial to this theory because I’m sick of “hero has amnesia” stories.

And your theories are?


Posted by JimK at 10:30 PM on September 24, 2007
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#1  Posted by Buzzion United States on 09/25 at 12:38 AM -

Well I’ve got a few ideas as well.
And God it was so awesome to see this again.  I watched the final 3 episodes before the premiere tonight.  They definitely should have done the last 2 as a 2 hour finale and really screwed up by splitting them, I think.  It just flowed so much better back to back.

The new people: What the frig is her power?  Is she sick, or are they just confusing her power with a sickness?  Whatever it is, she can’t control it.

On this I think that the girl and guy both have some power.  Without him near her she loses control and whatever she does is kills them.

The eyes molly is seeing is the guy more dangerous than sylar.  Remember she didn’t want to locate him because when she did he could see her, and that’s what the voice said in the dream.  She was afraid of Sylar but she wasn’t terrified of him like she is of this one.

As for Peter, here’s something to consider.  The Haitian didn’t do it to him.  He did it to himself.  Could that be possible?  I mean it does seem pretty obvious he came in contact with him, since he was wearing the Godsend necklace.  I don’t think Nathan knows where Peter is though.  I think their mother does though.  Nathan wanted to everything to stay in Peter’s apartment and was not happy his mom was trying to pack up.

I also like Claire and HRG, that even when they know they need to hide, that its just not possible for them to remain low key and hide who they really are.

Two decent questions to start out the season with too?  Are you a robot or an alien? And who are the Nine? Or is it now Eight?

JimK#2  Posted by JimK United States on 09/25 at 12:56 AM -

I love the theory that Peter did it to himself.  Good point.  Also, the brother being the control for Maya’s power.

Good to have a great show back again, innit?

#3  Posted by supercore Germany on 09/25 at 01:48 AM -

Good to have a great show back again, innit?

Amen!

I don’t think that Hiro will end up being the REAL Kensai. Just seems way too obvious for a show like Heroes. There’ll be some sort of spiritual/moral awakening in the englishman from hanging around doofy Hiro that’ll set him straight. Hiro just has that effect on people. Although it would be cool to see Hiro make it with the sword-makers daughter and become his own great-great-great-great grandfather. But I digress…

As far as Maya and Alejandro, it seems like she causes some sort of ebola-like reaction in people around her while he is a sort of instant cure for it. It sure didn’t seem like the truck got very far once they left Alejandro behind. 15-30 minutes down the road at most. They’d been driving all through the night and it would’ve taken him at least 4 times as long to catch up as it took them to drive. Any longer and it probably wouldve been dawn. Explains why they were so adamant about being together.

The original leaders of The Company equaled 12. I don’t think we’ve met any of the 9 (or 8) left except Angela and Mr Nakamura. Noone else that’s been introduced has been, well… old enough. That seems to be their only similarity. Which means that Mr Nakamura’s killer was either an agent of the company(most likely) or someone who ages VERY well.

Peter I’ve got no clue what’s going on.

Most interesting moment of the night for me: Nathan seeing a horribly burned version of himself in the mirror. Probably what he looked like before Peter healed him. Except I don’t remember Peter getting anywhere close to Linderman or any other healer last year… Maybe I missed it?

Christian#4  Posted by Christian United States on 09/25 at 10:28 AM -

I am totally stoked to have this show back. I also liked “Chuck” far more than I thought I would, and liked “Journeyman” less than I thought I would. Isn’t “J” just “Quantum Leap” without the dreamy Scott Bakula?

Not only do we have the “Amensia Superhero” stereotype goen on, but we also have the “Bitter Superhero” in Nathan.  All we need is “They Meet for the first time and Fight” and we would have had the hat trick. 

HRG though...Half Dr. Doom/ Half Father knows best.  But Mom disturbs me even more…

#5  Posted by Buzzion United States on 09/25 at 10:38 AM -

The original leaders of The Company equaled 12. I don’t think we’ve met any of the 9 (or 8) left except Angela and Mr Nakamura.

I believe you may be wrong.  I’d be willing to bet that the man with the Midas touch is one of them.  Afterall if he were one of the leaders, it would explain how the company got so big and well funded. 

The invisible man could also be one too quite honestly, but doubtful.  He could have joined up very young.

Also any possibility of Linderman not being dead?  Could it be possible that he could heal himself even from death?

Green Lantern#6  Posted by Green Lantern United States on 09/25 at 11:00 AM -

Go to NBC.com and read the online comics.  It pretty much confirms that the new twins are virus and cure.  She wiped out an entire village and that is why they are running.  Kinda gives new meaning to the “Wonder Twins”, ok bad joke.

Damn I do love this show the story is great.

#7  Posted by supercore Germany on 09/25 at 11:50 AM -

I’d be willing to bet that the man with the Midas touch is one of them.

I don’t know, he just seems like small friees to me.  As far as Claude being one of the Company leaders, I doubt it. Devaux, Linderman, Petrelli (mama and papa), and Nakamura were all involved in the company, but it seems like they never got their hands wet if they didn’t absolutely have to. Claude was an enforcer, an agent, whatever. You don’t send 1/12th your leadership out on life or death missions every week. Which is why I don’t think Kaito’s murderer was really one of the Company leaders either.

Mazz#8  Posted by Mazz United States on 09/25 at 12:36 PM -

I will reserve judgement until after next eppisode.  This was nothing but an introduction.

Here’s a thought… Claire’s new boyfriend?  A flyer.  Could it turn out to be her BROTHER?

mgnmfrc1#9  Posted by mgnmfrc1 United States on 09/25 at 01:02 PM -

Momma Patrelli is evil. What’s her power? Nathan sees it, what was his dads power? I forgot. Peter just got nuked, safe to assume that had a negative effect on his brain cells, he was close to Claire, maybe he can use the self healing on others? He can shoot fie balls out of his hands now, who knows. He would have to have seen the Haitan after he went up up and exploded for him to have his memory erased. Possible. Maybe he was weak when after the boom, but Nathan thinks he’s dead.

Hiro may have either just fucked up history or the daughter is Takezo Kensei. Since this is feudal Japan and all it’s not like a chick would get credit for any of this even if she was found out.

Linderman, Daddy Patrelli, Momma Paterelli, Kaito Nakamura plus 8 more. Midas man is useful for his power, nothing more, so he is probably part of the 8. Whoever killed Kaito Nakamura went splat, so they are either expendable or can recover.

#10  Posted by Buzzion United States on 09/25 at 01:17 PM -

He would have to have seen the Haitan after he went up up and exploded for him to have his memory erased. Possible. Maybe he was weak when after the boom, but Nathan thinks he’s dead.

I think the necklace around Peter’s neck establishes that he has been in contact with the Haitian.  That was what he wore.

He can shoot fie balls out of his hands now, who knows

That was a radioactive blast, similar to Ted’s EMP blast.

Mazz#11  Posted by Mazz United States on 09/25 at 01:19 PM -

It was just Kaito’s body on the ground after the fall, I believe.

Harley W Daugherty#12  Posted by Harley W Daugherty United States on 09/25 at 10:04 PM -

Great thoughts all.
Im not quite sure where the nathen-peter story is going…

Kaito, and Angela… hmm the killer was not who he expected.......but he knew him/her..
oh in the previews, did i see Slyler?.

Hiros, gonna get the English chap to do the right thing, Hiro wil most likely force him to do the tings his father told him about Kensi…
on and the swordmaker… wonder if its anyone we know?

Mazz#13  Posted by Mazz United States on 09/25 at 10:08 PM -

Yup, you saw Syler.

#14  Posted by Drumwaster United States on 09/25 at 11:51 PM -

on and the swordmaker… wonder if its anyone we know?

Something tells me it isn’t Domingo Montoya.

mgnmfrc1#15  Posted by mgnmfrc1 United States on 09/26 at 01:38 PM -

WTF? Spinoff’s already?  Geezus!

Note to NBC, take it slow and DON’T FUCK THIS UP WITH YOUR FUCKING STUPIDITY!

#16  Posted by Buzzion United States on 09/26 at 01:55 PM -

the reason for Origins is at the bottom of that article.

The spinoff will premiere in midseason, while Heroes is on hiatus, allowing for fewer repeats of the mothership series and for a less noticeable gap in programming

Ratings for Heroes took a big hit when they went on a long hiatus.  They hope that with Origins they can keep the series spread out for a full season and with theses 6 episodes keep the ratings up better.

mgnmfrc1#17  Posted by mgnmfrc1 United States on 09/26 at 03:21 PM -

Maybe they shouldn’t take a hiatus? Just a thought!

#18  Posted by Drumwaster United States on 09/26 at 04:31 PM -

Whatever happened to the 36-episode season? That would be enough (with fillers and standard holiday fare - to fill the year from September to May, then into the summer repeats, and you only had to endure about a third of the season you had just watched, plus summer sports to fill in the gaps. (Monday Night Football! Friday Night Fights!)

Then it was 30. Then 26. The last season of “Friends” was only 22 episodes. All of the other shows moved right along, cutting production as these stars let their celebrity go to their heads, rather than thanking their personal Diety that they had steady, if somewhat overpaid, work (with the odd movie shoot during the summer).

NOW it’s down to a mere dozen if your show airs on one of the cable networks!

It used to be a special occasion when a movie star showed up on a TV series. Now the TV stars and movie stars (and the odd aspiring JLo, Jr.) are damned near interchangeable, and the quality has been diluted accordingly, especially when you consider that “I just have to look good, I don’t have to be clear” mindset which has pervaded the entertainment industry. (People who are famous simply for being famous, and suddenly they are appearing EVERYWHERE - TV, movies, their new album with ‘Wilted Sixbits’, name it.)

I love me some good entertainment, and I pay damned near $100 month for my cable (almost 500 channels) and I just got a TiVO yesterday because there looks to be a lot of good TV on this season.

But let’s not fool ourselves. Barring some changes in technology and the breadth of audience reached, these people are just two steps up from Pepe, the dancing monkey. (The organ grinder would be the equivalent of today’s “executive producers”.)

#19  Posted by Buzzion United States on 09/26 at 04:47 PM -

I can’t be sure but isn’t it pretty standard for an hour long show to have around 25 episodes for a season? 

The thing with shows like Heroes is that each episode is a progression in the story, and they don’t seem to wish to air them out order (which I understand) or even repeat(which is dumb).  What they should do is pick the dates of when new episodes return and rerun the previous episodes to that point.

#20  Posted by Drumwaster United States on 09/26 at 06:00 PM -

I can’t be sure but isn’t it pretty standard for an hour long show to have around 25 episodes for a season?

That shit started with Dallas and Dynasty. Nighttime soap operas, they are, and a corruption of what used to be the good solid situational comedy.

Law & Order - while a good show - didn’t help matters one bit.

#21  Posted by Buzzion United States on 09/26 at 06:21 PM -

Well I’m thinking more of the original Star Trek.  3 Seasons, 79 episodes.  That’s 26 episodes per season.

#22  Posted by Drumwaster United States on 09/26 at 07:02 PM -

The first season had 29 episodes, and that was after a troubled first season. And IIRC the third season was cut a bit short when rating started dropping unacceptably. (Of course, moving it to Friday night at 10pm might have had a lot to do with that, but still...)

jo-jo#23  Posted by jo-jo United States on 09/27 at 08:47 AM -

I am totally stoked to have this show back. I also liked “Chuck” far more than I thought I would, and liked “Journeyman” less than I thought I would. Isn’t “J” just “Quantum Leap” without the dreamy Scott Bakula?

haven’t seen “Journeyman” yet (yay for reruns on scifi), but my husband and i said the same exact thing!

#24  Posted by Buzzion United States on 09/27 at 10:24 AM -

I think I should have watched Chuck instead of “Big Bang Theory.” That had just about every single possible nerd stereotype thrown into it.  Did have a few funny moments though.


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