I hope they leave Peter dead. He’s too powerful and I hate too powerful characters.

As for the rest I had the same reaction as you. I didn’t get a thrill out of it, but it was interesting. I did like the bullet rebound.

Let the dead people die, there’s plenty of other charcters they can bring forth and it would keep things fresh. They have a whole country of “hidden” people.

even the special effects - I’ll admit it felt a little anti-climactic

I would have liked to have seen Sylar fly a little further when Nikki hit him with the parking meter.  Yeah, the final battle should have been a bit more epic.

The last 10 minutes bored me just a little bit.  I suppose I shouldn’t complain, it’s the first time Heroes has been at all boring all season.

The season climax is a pretty bad time to get boring though.  And it’s not the first time the show got boring...I seem to remember being bored quite a bit for the first few episodes.

Rule #1 of comics: no corpse, no death (and sometimes there’s no death even if there is a corpse).  So all of those folks could technically still be alive.  Even Nathan, who on the surface seems most likely to be dead, could have dropped Peter from high altitude and flown away before Peter exploded.

Who is more dangerous than Sylar?

Prediction for the one person Molly doesn’t want to track, who is more dangerous than Sylar: Momma Pitrelli. We still don’t know what her power is.

Generally, though, I agree it was anti-climactic.

Prediction for the one person Molly doesn’t want to track, who is more dangerous than Sylar: Momma Pitrelli. We still don’t know what her power is.

But Molly referred to that person as “him” and “he”. Unless there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with Momma Patrelli, I don’t think anyone would refer to her in the masculine.

Even Nathan, who on the surface seems most likely to be dead, could have dropped Peter from high altitude and flown away before Peter exploded.

Or tossed him in a ballistic arc, or Peter could even have continued on under his own power.

If Sylar is not dead, then neither can Peter be dead, since for every Superman, there has to be a Lex Luthor. If Superman were to ever actually put Lex away permanently, the writers would have to come up with Son of Lex, twice as tall with just as many claws and covered with spikes made from Kryptonite.

One other thing, if I may…

Great line: “Call me Noah.”

Interesting. I didn’t think she mentioned a gender, but I guess I’m mistaken.

Peter dead? Maybe.  It’s not clear if exploding like that… or releasing that much energy… kills Pete.

Sylar dead?  Yes.  Dead.  Why?

“The man even more bad than syler?” Season 3’s baddy.

In the TV Guide, they said that they were going to make room for more characters.  I’m going to the San Diego Comic-Con.  I’ll have spoilers after July 22.

I’m pretty sure that little Molly said “When I see him, he can see me, too.”

I’ll check it again once i finish with the torrent…

UPDATE:

About a third of the way through the episode (at roughly the 14:00 mark in the commercial-free copy I have), when Matt (mind-reading cop), Mohindar and HRG/"Noah" are gathered around Molly’s hospital bed.

Matt: “So you can find anyone in the world, you just need to think about them?”
Molly: “Almost anyone...”
Matt: “Almost?”
Molly: “There’s only one that I can’t.”
Matt: “Who’s that? Is it someone bad, Molly, like the boogey man?”
Molly: “No, he’s a lot worse.”
Matt: “Why don’t you want to find him?”
Molly: “Because when I think about him, he can see me.”

{Dramatic music}

That’s as accurate a transcription as I can make. Note the multiple uses of the masculine by both characters.

It is possible that the Person worse than the boogey man actually dragged the body of the dead boogeyman to the sewer. 

Also, didn’t someone on this site predict back in like November or December that Nathan would fly Peter away from the city to save the city from the explosion.  Whoever made that prediction - good call.

I did think the final battle was a little anti-climactic, but I understand.  They only had an hour and they had to fit a lot in (including wrap ups for this season and the set-ups for the next season).

JimK, how come you want Mohinder dead? I haven’t seen all of the first season yet so I’m late to the party. Is he trying to continue his fathers work or just trying to find out what the hell daddy was up too?

mgnmfrc1, I just hate that actor and his inability to act.  And his droning voiceovers.  I don’t mind the character...just the guy that plays him!  :)

All looks and no talent! Maybe they can get M. Night Shyamalan to replace him.

ANy have some goo torrent links to look for stuff that is not full of spam/virus’/etc?

Also, didn’t someone on this site predict back in like November or December that Nathan would fly Peter away from the city to save the city from the explosion.  Whoever made that prediction - good call.

I don’t remember who said that… ;)

Drum: Thanks for the additional info. Too bad, though.. it could have made for some fun.

What was up with that flashback sequence thing of Peter’s? I like how they just ignored the “how is this happening” question by saying “it just is”. :-)

Okay, so there’s one thing that’s totally bugging me, here…

I mean, I know Peter was freaked about the impending Kaboom, and all.. and I even understand the need for doing this, for dramatic purposes… but logically, is there any good reason whatsoever (note that I said good reason) why Peter needed Nathan to fly him out of there?
Maybe I’m missing something, here… but… Peter can fly by himself, right?

Other points;

1. If Sylar is not dead, and I agree that he’s not,
what was with the tv-channel-flipping-eyeballs
thing?
Was he losing all his stolen abilities, one by
one?
Is he now going to have to come back virtually
powerless, and start all over?

2. Of course Peter lives. It was made pretty clear that he can survive going boom. We even saw future-Peter alive and well, after going boom, right?

3. Nathan’s dead. If not, the writers are a bunch of pansies. Nothing interesting can come of him surviving that.

4. Yes, the final battle could have been a lot more climatic, or at least more action-packed. Here you have two incredibly super-powered guys in their final battle, and Peter starts… punching him?
Really? No telekenetics? No nuclear blasts? No invisibillity, even?
Just a few good right hands?
Wow.

5. I know exactly who the mega-big-baddie is that Molly’s afraid of.
Isn’t it obvious?
it’s.....................ANDO!

...heh. j/k.

BTW, when it became obvious where and when Hiro was at the end, my first thought was, “Ah! Hiro is Kensei!!!”
...and then they showed Kensei.

...and so I revised my theory.
Kensei will be killed, and Hiro will take his place, fulfilling the Kensei mythology.

OR... Kensei is another version of Hiro, who arrived a few years further in the past.

Aw, what the hell do I know? I’m just a silly little comic-book artist. heh.

God, I love this show!

the thing about peter that bugs me is if he’s about to go boom, why did he need claire to KILL him?  didn’t he stop going “glowy glowy” when he passed out?  thus, wouldn’t just giving him a good swift kick in the nuts be enough to break his concentration and focus his mind elsewhere?

also, did nikki/jessica merge??

the ending was so anticlimactic.  i said this in response to someone in my lj (i think it was to sean):

i wanted more future, more action packed. more WONDERHERO POWERS ACTIVATE! SHAPE OF: FLYING GUY… FORM OF: MINDREADING DUDE… etc.

er… for the record, i want to clarify that i thought everything up to the “fight” scene and after the fight were very good.  just the fight itself and the “come fly with me brother” part bored me. ;)

A very good point re: why didn’t Peter just fly himself? Maybe he has so many powers now that he just loses track of them. Good thing he doesn’t likely have car keys.

A very good point re: why didn’t Peter just fly himself? Maybe he has so many powers now that he just loses track of them. Good thing he doesn’t likely have car keys.

I thought of that, too.  But I have noticed that we hae not seen Peter fly without his brother.  Even when Claude pushed him off the building, he didn’t use his flying power, he used Calire’s healing power.  I wonder if there are some limits to Peter’s ability to absorb new powers (i.e. he can only absorb so many before losing others) and if so what are they?

If Sylar is not dead, and I agree that he’s not, what was with the tv-channel-flipping-eyeballs
thing?

That was to apparently portray that he was seeing future events, just like Isaac Mendez could. You’re just seeing those flash-forwards, rather than wondering why he’s staring off into space.

My question is: has anyone looked at those scenes in slow-mo?

We even saw future-Peter alive and well, after going boom, right?

That was in a different timeline, IIRC.

A very good point re: why didn’t Peter just fly himself? Maybe he has so many powers now that he just loses track of them. Good thing he doesn’t likely have car keys.

Possibly because the use of other powers causes him to break his concentration on trying to control his power.  If he attempted to fly, he would go boom too soon.

I thought of that, too.  But I have noticed that we hae not seen Peter fly without his brother.  Even when Claude pushed him off the building, he didn’t use his flying power, he used Calire’s healing power.  I wonder if there are some limits to Peter’s ability to absorb new powers (i.e. he can only absorb so many before losing others) and if so what are they?

Yeah he did.  He did it after Claude got hit with the taser.  He stopped the electrodes from hitting him, grabbed claude and took off flying, without nathan around.

my husband and i also wondered why he didn’t fly. 

i don’t think it’s that he has a limit on which powers he can absorb or the number.  i think he still has no clue how to properly use them all.

I figured he was just too tied up trying to prevent the boom. Didn’t have the system resources available to fire up the flight program.

I’m kinda hoping he won’t return next season unless Sylar does. Right now, he possesses: super-strength (Niki, stood close enough to her during finale), chronokinesis (Hiro, from FutureHiro), radiation control (Ted, meeting at Kirby Plaza), regeneration (Claire, while saving her), telekinesis (Sylar, same time as Claire), invisibility (Claude, after he went into that coma), flight (Nathan, initial episodes), mindreading (Matt, aftermath of saving Claire), and predicting the future (Isaac, probably while fighting over Simone). He may also have picked up some power from Charles Devereaux, possibly some lucid-dreaming ability.

In other words, he’s slightly overpowered for the Heroesverse. :)

--TR

i think he still has no clue how to properly use them all.

Let us all remember that the story line has only been happening for five or six weeks, from our first scene (Peter standing on the edge of a building roof with Mohindar’s VO, only to be startled awake), to the election night “landslide” (thanks to Micah), and the post-election party. The story would only be the night after the election.

That’s not a whole lot of time to have one’s life turned completely upside down…

But an interesting question: didn’t the “future visions” where Peter saw himself blowing up show that he did so during daylight hours? Wasn’t Claire wearing her cheerleader outfit?

What event changed that timeline to the one we saw last night?

wow.  good call drum.  i had forgotten that.  i need to rewatch the season before next season to pick up on things i missed.  we rewatched some eps during the scifi marathon, but i actually had to leave the house ;)

Did you guys know you can watch the entire season from NBC’s website? They have them without the commentary.

Click Watch Episodes and you can make it full screen.

Looks like I’ll be busy this weekend.

There is a character in the Legion of Superheroes that can only use one superpower at a time. If he flys, he isn’t superstrong, and so forth.  I think Peter is like that. I think he barely can use one power at a time because he just barely knows how to use the powers.

Ya, kinda anticlimatic, but in many ways satisfying. I loved when Nikki smacked Sylar with the pole. As for him being dead? As someone has already said, in all comics its the same: No body, no death.

My theory is that Peter can only use one power at a time.  During the second Peter / Sylar fight, Peter went invisible but didn’t do any telekenetics stuff while he was invisible. 

So Peter can’t fly and go boom at the same time.  It has to be one or the other.  And since he was going boom, he couldn’t fly without Nathan’s help.

Also simone, and Isaac were both originally at the explosion.  I think that peter does have some weird dreaming ability, because he saw himself on the rooftop about to jump before ever meeting isaac.

Donna just pointed out to me, in the future flash-forward alternate timeline thingy, Peter did use TK and invisibility at the same time.  Now, that might not mean he can do it in the present - it might be that he can’t, or that he just doesn’t know how yet.

Or the radioactivity thing was just THAT overwhelming?

Did you guys know you can watch the entire season from NBC’s website?

i just can’t bring myself to watch stuff on my computer when there’s a perfectly good 56” tv sitting right here ;) (and 2 other big screen tvs in the house).

i think what i want to do is d/l from somewhere (believe it or not, i have NEVER done that.  i get people to do it for me ;) and then isn’t there a way i can watch it through the 360 since it’s networked?

or i can just get the dvds ;)

Also, didn’t someone on this site predict back in like November or December that Nathan would fly Peter away from the city to save the city from the explosion.  Whoever made that prediction - good call.

believe that was me.....
But Hiro got Syler soooo easy.. i was like WTF>? it could not be that easy..

But Hiro got Syler soooo easy.. i was like WTF>? it could not be that easy.

I was thinking that too, but maybe since he was out numbered and Peter was about to Flame on, it was an easy way to “escape” since everyones attention was on the flyboyz.

I liked the season.. yeah the end was sorta anti-climactic but it wasn’t horrible.  Decent show that’s better then almost all the other crap out there anyway.

Tell me I’m not the only one that saw the “Nathan flying Peter/Sylar (which ever it ended up being) high enough to save everyone” solution coming only 5-10 min into the episode max?  The first time that Nathan was on screen and showed the tiniest pause made me think he was having second thoughts and that he was going to come around in the end and save everyone.  I was waiting for him to show up and take Peter away when it was clear he was going to be the one to blow.